Condemned by their own mouths…

Gitmo prisoners defend ‘blessed’ 9/11 attack

Now I know there are some Muslims out there who would try to make a case for these murderers, but I just want to put it out there, that in Islam, “because they did it” is never a case to act against the guidance of the Qur’an or the Sunnah of the Prophet (saw).

Muslims are commanded to not kill innocents, commit terrorism, etc.  We are commanded to be the best example of truth and justice.

When it comes to “justified” fighting and war, we are commanded to incline towards peace if offered and to not let our hatred of an entire people incline us toward injustice.  Suicide is also a major sin as well.  I doubt there are Muslims out there who would seriously debate this and prove that Islam condones their actions.  These men are murderers and are attempting to cover their actions with Islam, when in fact their actions put them outside the fold of Islam long ago.

They should be put to death immediately for their unrepentant crimes against humanity.

Their actions are not “blessed” but damned and may Allah (swt) reward them for their crimes and allow justice for the innocent to be swift.

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  1. Great evil disguises itself as the Islamic religion. Why are we keeping this human filth alive and polluting the world? If I were Muslim, I would declare Jihad against these defilers of the faith. Defiling the name of the prophet for evil purposes. Shameful.

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  2. As a non-Muslim American, I appreciated your comments here. Most Americans accept that the vast majority of Muslims are peace-loving, tolerant human beings who share their same aspirations for happiness and health. However, you cannot deny the fact that a significant percentage of your fellow Muslims do not agree with you. They would point to the same passages that you cite in the Qur’an and interpret them to justify the killing of innocent people. It is my belief that until Islam comes to grip with the easily exploited ambiguities of its holy scriptures, the world will continue to see the spread of Islamic extremism and terrorism. The fact is that the Qur’an was written for another age and it deals with many issues in a 7th century manner. More than 109 verses deal with violence and the Qur’an provides very specific instructions on when it is acceptable to kill others, be they Muslim or not. It is a book pre-occupied with violence and routinely justifies using it as a problem-solving tool. In the 7th century, things may have been that way, but the world has become considerably more complicated. Islam and the Qur’an in particular need to be re-examined and clarified so that no gray-bearded cleric who is angry about the erosion of old traditions can so easily manipulate the meaning of the scriptures in order to exact revenge on his perceived enemies. That issue lies at the core of Islamic extremism around the world. In Christianity, there was the Council of Nicea and the New Testment, which eschews all forms of violence. In Catholicism, there have been several enclaves where church tenets have been re-defined. Islam needs the same kind of reformation. Of course, the problem is, any potential reformers would quickly be faced with their own murder by other, less progressive Muslims. It is a difficult and painful issue, not just for Islam, but for the entire planet. It is remarkable how much damage has been done to the world’s collective psyche by these few killers being held at Guantanamo Bay.

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  3. I was just watched a documentary on the History Channel about the Abu-Sayyaf group. In May 2001, Abu Sayyaf kidnapped 20 people, including three Americans, at a Philippine resort and demanded ransom payments. Abu Sayyaf beheaded one of the American captives and held the other two Americans—a Christian missionary couple—hostage on Basilan Island in the southern Philippines. In June 2002, U.S.-trained Philippine commandos tried to rescue the couple and a Filipino nurse being held with them. Two of the hostages were killed in the shootout, and one, the American missionary Gracia Burnham, was freed. In August 2002, Abu Sayyaf kidnapped six Filipino Jehovah’s Witnesses and beheaded two of them.

    In the documentary, when one watches it objectively finds that these so called “Jihadists” were conveniently using the name of Islam, when in reality they were ex-convicts, had a long running history of criminal activities, gang mentality and a desire for money and fame. However, watching the documentary one sees clearly that the Phillipine government was also responsible for the death of innocent men and women captured by this separatist group. Wrong is wrong, but two wrongs can not make a right. There is always two sides to a story. In the case of people in Gitmo, and the remarks of these people does not make them right; but what is the real story? How many times have I seen A&E with stories about serial killers and cold case files where the accused is found not guilty by a Jury – only when one is presented with the complete story. No sane Muslim endorses insanity, cruelty or killing people (or animals). But we have the right as a human being to demand justice, truth and transparency to bring the criminals to society and humanity to justice.

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  4. As salaamu ‘aleykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuhu

    Forgive me for a comment not related to the post. There is an excellent new blog dedicated to a book called: *An Incomplete History: The Muslims of Spain Post 1492 in a Global Context and its Relevance to Muslims Today*

    http://historyofandalus.wordpress.com/

    The situation of the Muslims living in the West today poses a striking similarity to the situation of the Muslims in Al- Andalus post 1492 (when the last Muslim ruler surrendered the last Muslim stronghold of Granada to King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella). This marked the official end to Islamic rule in Al- Andalus. The end of Islamic rule was also marked by the Capitulations of Granada which was signed between Abu Abdullah Muhammad the Twelfth and the Spanish Crown of Castille. The agreement seemed to be made binding upon the Spanish Crown of Castille but as the reader shall see, it was broken within ten years after the agreement was put into effect.

    Muslims lived in Andalus for at least two hundred years after the fall (1492). Their lives were not easy. In many cases they were forced to give up their identities, could not practice Islam in public, they were not allowed to speak Arabic (and therefore could not pray in congregation) or even give their children Muslim names! So what began as tolerance for the practice of Islam in Al- Andalus and allowing for their affairs to be judged under Shari’ah courts (Capitulations of Granada) slowly but surely led to the persecution of the Muslims of Al-Andalus until no trace of Islam in Andalus was to be found.

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  5. John,

    I really respect your honest and sincere approach in analyzing the problem at hand. One can also see your pain and concern due to the cloud of terror and violence that engulfs the world we live in today. You have made an excellent effort in trying to help Muslims and understand the Quran. However, I would like to share my thoughts based on your analysis.

    As a Muslim and American, I share your concerns about some Muslims in the world that have drifted away from their “Adamic” nature. But it should be remembered that humanity has been plunged into fighting and killing after the dispute between Cain and Abel. The old testament records scores and scores of wars, trials and tribulations, killings and destruction that human race has experienced before Christ. The modern day Christianity has its begining after the advent of Jesus Christ (peace be upon him). So, when we look at the New Testament we find that Jesus dealt a firm hand to the “evil and adulterous generation” by overturning the tables of the money changers – the capitalists of his day. Before his triumphant entry on his donkey Jesus says, “for those my enemies who do not want that I reign over them bing them heither and slay them all.” Right before the events that lead to his crucifiction he commanded his disciples to sell their garments and buy a sword. Now, let us go forward 2000 yrs and now arrives Prophet Muhammed (peace be upon him) who is predicted by his predecessor Jesus Christ as “the comforter” and “that prophet like unto Moses”. Jesus also clarified his position by saying, “I am come not to break the Law or the prophets but to fulfil”. Which means he was “the way, the truth and the life” and no-one commeth onto the father but through him – talking of his time. So, we find in Jesus the true definition of love; peace-loving, tolerant, firm yet ready to deal with trasgression with force. It is this complete definition that is left out by the modern day churches leading to the wrong understanding of the word ‘LOVE’ in Christianity. The Christian Churches (John Hagee and his likes) who are the good Souther Babtist “hot gospellers” that have taken advantage of the 9-11 events to de-humanize Islam and Muslims. No, Muslm mother gives birth to a child with the intention that she is raising a “bomb” – which falsifies this widespread lie about Muslims being “ticking time bombs”. When it comes to interpretation it does not mean that the message is flawed, it means the person reading the message is taking it out of context. For example, Jesus says in The Gospel according to John, “I and my father are one”. A literalist would mean that this “oneness” is “oneness of likeness”. That Jesus is God. But when one reads that line in context with the story, it becomes clear as white sky that Jesus is talking about “oneness in purpose”. Millions of Christians are lead to reading the text and kept away from understanding the context; who is responsible for such crime? The Church. Does that mean that now the verse in the Bible is flawed? No, it is the interpretation that is out of context. This is the rule of interpretation. Shouldn’t we all follow in “truth, the way and life” of Jesus? Shouldn’t we be turning the “money changers” of our times with a whip? Shouldn’t we summon our enemies (like George W. Bush has done) to bring them and slay them all – Guntanamo bay is a literal interpretation of this command of Jesus Christ. Now, some would say to me stop! You don’t know what you are saying, this is not what it means? Then what is the purpose of the stament “the way, the truth, the life” and that “no one commeth unto the father” but by following Jesus. The truth is that the Churches have done a great injustice to its masses. Rather than follow in the footsteps of the master, they have resorted to “wage a war” against the anti-Christ – alluding to Muslims. There is nothing easy to exploit in the Quran. Unlike any other book on the face of this earth, the Quran is the only heavenly book that starts out its message with the sentence, “this is that book in which there is no doubt”. The Quran is the only book that also lays principles of interpretation by clarifying that “in it are verses that are clear and verses that are allegorical”. The verses that deal with “Jihaad” are not allegorical; they are clear. So, I disagree with your suggestion, “…util Islam comes to grip with the easily exploited ambiguities of its holy scriptures, the world will continue to see the spread of Islamic extremism and terrorism”. The 50’s and 60’s in America saw white extremism and terrorism where Bible loving, good black Christians were lynched, murdered and killed. The entire world sat silently watching the genocide of Hutu’s and Tutsi’s. No one ever mentions Myanmar and how the “loving” Bhuddist’s have killed, murdered and systematically destroyed a very non-volatile Muslim population. No one mentions Malaysia, a popular Islamic country where Hindu’s, Chinese and all other religions live without fear; same goes for Dubai, Bahrain, Kuwait and Qatr. Where oil companies and Western workers enjoy Oil money. Most of the nineteen culprits were Saudi, yet America maintains a strong relationship with Saudi Arabia with its largely American run Aramco. So, let us not generalize Afghanistan to represent 1 Billion Muslims. As much as “Iran” is used in the commercial news media as a “terror hype” one finds all the American companies operating in Iran out of Dubai. Halliburton moved its operations to Dubai. In reality, the Rich politicians prior to Barack Obama have terroized the American masses and thrown America and the whole world into chaos under the pretext of a landlocked Afghanistan. The fact that the Qur’an was revealed for mankind for all ages can be gauged from the fact that one can not find a single verse in the Quran that is out of place in its application. That is what one should point out. Making statments is easy, but showing examples from the Quran to make the point would clarify the point you are trying to make. I would have hoped you would have specific example(s) to show that at the 7th century is where the Quran stopped and beyond the 7th century everything is impractical. If the Quran has 109 verses dealing with violence the Bible far exceeds this number in the verses that list violence and murder. The new testament has the actual recordings of Jesus talking about “slaying”. But the truth is that you are reading the text of 109 verses and not the context. Well the Quran can be re-examined and can not be changed like the Bible; which is a proof in itself that the Quran is a revealed book protected by God Almighty. John you nor any Muslim, nor the Omega Project can change the Quran. What you are requesting is humanely impossible because the Quran challenges you and everyone in the world to try and change it. So, this is all the reason why the Quran is a message from God. Now, if you are upset with God and don’t like what He has revealed it is your human inability not a flaw of His message. Jesus was also a gray beared cleric, like Moses and other prophets. Unfortunately, people fail to study “cultural anthropology” and fail to listen to other people. We all think, my way or the high way! How many Madrasaa’s have you visited, or Clerics to sit down and get an objective view; or are we to be educated by the media on learning the truth. By the way, how much do you pay for you cable to watch CNN? Is it free? What do you pay for reading the Holy Bible or Holy Quran? Nothing. Islam has nothing laying in its core that is hard to decipher. The ratio of 6666/109 should tell you where the weight of the religion lies. Islam doesn’t need anything, it is the Muslims that need reformation. To truely understand Islam, I urge you to understake the study of the Arabic language; it won’t take you too long to appreciate the progressive approach of Arabic Language and the vastness of the Quran in resolving humanities problems. If you are so worried about the planet and its politics, read Noam Chomsky. It is remarkable how a good Christian fails to use the Bible in judging all the people in Guantanamo Bay.

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