Is Christianity a violent religion?

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Well you had the Roman uprising of the new Jewish messiah sect, then you had the destruction of all the older pagan gods and beliefs, then you had rapid expansion and the subjection of “infidels”. Then you had the crusades, inquisition, slavery, the burning at the stake of witches, scientists, etc. etc. In modern times you have war after war against non-Christian nations made by nations that are predominantly Christian and openly proclaim theirs is a Christian nation or founded on Judeo – Christian principles. You had abortion clinic bombings, lynchings, jim crow, the subjugation of women, intolerance, terrorism against federal buildings,terrorism on college campuses, hate speech against many non-christians, etc. All of this in Christian nations. Yet no one is willing to call Christianity a violent religion.

Where do these Christians get their beliefs from and how do they sanction their actions?  From the Bible of course.  The Bible contains hundreds of examples of violence against non-believers, women, other ethnicities, etc.  In almost every book of the Bible from Genesis to Revelation examples of violence is present.  It is no surprise the many of this religions followers exude beliefs that are violent and intolerant.  Here are many examples of what I speak:

When you approach a city to fight against it, you shall offer it terms of peace. If it agrees to make peace with you and opens to you, then all the people who are found in it shall become your forced labor and shall serve you. However, if it does not make peace with you, but makes war against you, then you shall besiege it. When the LORD your God gives it into your hand, you shall strike all the men in it with the edge of the sword. Only the women and the children and the animals and all that is in the city, all its spoil, you shall take as booty for yourself; and you shall use the spoil of your enemies which the LORD your God has given you. Only in the cities of these peoples that the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, you shall not leave alive anything that breathes” (Deutronomy 20:10-17)

“Hymenaeus and Alexander I have delivered to Satan that they may learn not to blaspheme.” 1 Timothy 1:20

“This day the LORD will deliver you into my hand, and I will strike you down, and cut off your head; and I will give the dead bodies of the host of the Philistines this day to the birds of the air and to the wild beasts of the earth; that all the earth may know that there is a God in Israel, Then David ran and stood over the Philistine, and took his sword and drew it out of its sheath, and killed him, and cut off his head with it…. And David took the head of the Philistine and brought it to Jerusalem; but he put his armor in his tent. And as David returned from the slaughter of the Philistine, Abner took him, and brought him before Saul with the head of the Philistine in his hand.” 1 Samuel 17:46

“Then Abishai the son of Zeruiah said to the king, “Why should this dead dog curse my lord the king? Let me go over and take off his head.”… And there is also with you Shimei the son of Gera, the Benjaminite from Bahurim, who cursed me with a grievous curse on the day when I went to Mahanaim; but when he came down to meet me at the Jordan, I swore to him by the LORD, saying, I will not put you to death with the sword.’ Now therefore hold him not guiltless, for you are a wise man; you will know what you ought to do to him, and you shall bring his gray head down with blood to Sheol.” 2 Samuel 16:9, 1 Kings 2:8

“ When they came into the house, as he lay on his bed in his bedchamber, they smote him, and slew him, and beheaded him. They took his head, and went by the way of the Arabah all night, and brought the head of Ishbosheth to David at Hebron. And they said to the king, “Here is the head of Ishbosheth, the son of Saul, your enemy, who sought your life; the LORD has avenged my lord the king this day on Saul and on his offspring.” 2 Samuel 4:7

“That is not true. But a man of the hill country of Ephraim, called Sheba the son of Bichri, has lifted up his hand against King David; give up him alone, and I will withdraw from the city.” And the woman said to Joab, “Behold, his head shall be thrown to you over the wall.” Then the woman went to all the people in her wisdom. And they cut off the head of Sheba the son of Bichri, and threw it out to Joab.” 2 Samuel 20:21

“at Jezreel by this time tommorrow…And when the letter came to them, they took the king’s sons, and slew them, seventy persons, and put their heads in baskets, and sent them to him at Jezreel. When the messenger came and told him, “They have brought the heads of the king’s sons,” he said, “Lay them in two heaps at the entrance of the gate until the morning.”. (2 Kings Chapter 10 verse 6) “God has now fulfilled the prophecy of the prophet Elijah. So Jehu put to death all who were left of the house of Ahab in Jezreel, as well as all of his close friends and priests, until he had left not one single survivor.” (2 Kings Chapter 10 verse 10) “He put to death all of Ahab’s house, who were left there and so blotted it out, in fulfillment of the word which YAHWEH had spoken to Elijah.” (2 Kings Chapter 10 verse 7)

“When the LORD your God brings you into the land where you are entering to possess it, and clears away many nations before you, the Hittites and the Girgashites and the Amorites and the Canaanites and the Perizzites and the Hivites and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and stronger than you. And when the LORD your God delivers them before you and you defeat them, then you shall utterly destroy them. You shall make no covenant with them and show no favor to them.” (Deutronomy 7:1-2)

“I tell you that to everyone who has, more shall be given, but from the one who does not have, even what he does have shall be taken away. But these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them in my presence.” (Luke 19:26-27)

“Do not think that I have come to send peace on earth. I did not come to send peace, but a sword. I am sent to set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law” (Matthew 10:34-35)

I will send my fear before thee, and will destroy all the people to whom thou shalt come, and I will make all thine enemies turn their backs unto thee.Ӕ (Exodus 23:27)

And the LORD our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people.  At God’s instructions, the Israelites “utterly destroyed the men, women, and the little ones” leaving “none to remain.” 2:34 And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain. (Deuteronomy 2:33-36)

Joshua said to the people of Israel, “The Lord has given you the city of the all silver, and gold, and vessels of brass and iron, are consecrated unto the Lord: They shall come into the treasury of the Lord.  The people utterly DESTROYED ALL THAT WAS IN THE CITY, BOTH MAN AND WOMAN,YOUNG AND OLD, AND OX AND SHEEP, AND ASS, WITH THE EDGE OF THE SWORD. (Joshua 6:21,23)

“And he should go and worship other gods and bow down to them or to the sun or the moon or all the army of the heavens, …..and you must stone such one with stones and such one must die.” Deuteronomy 17:3-5

“Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.” (Romans 1:20-32)

“Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately. But all the girls who have not known man intimately, spare for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:17-18)

Deuteronomy 2:34-35; 3:6-7; Joshua 6:17; 8:2, 24-28; 10:28-40; 11:14, 13:12-18; 20:10-18 all call for the total annihilation of the enemy – men, women, and children. Genesis 34; Judges 3:12-20; 4-5; 14-15; 19-21; Esther 8-9 can all be read to encourage guerrilla warfare.

Christianity/Christians teach and believe in:

slavery (Ephesians 6:5, Deuteronomy 20:10);
Sanction being sold into slavery as a punishment for theft (Exodus 22:1-3);

Believe in gender inequality (1 Timothy 2:11, 1 Corinthians 14:34);

Require veiling for all women (1 Corinthians 11:5);

Treat women unjustly (1 Corinthians 11:5 and 14:34, 1 Timothy 2:11, Ecclesiasticus 25:18-19 & 33, Ecclesiastes 7:26, Genesis 3:16 & 19:8 & 21:10, Leviticus 27:6, Numbers 27:8-11 & 30, Deuteronomy 21:10-13 & 25:5-10 & 22:13-21, Judges 19:16-30);

Admit that their own texts have been falsified (Jeremiah 8:8);

Demand unquestioning obedience to political authority (Romans 13:1);

Advocate suicide (1 Samuel 31:4-5);

Allow the murder of civilians in wartime (1 Samuel 15:3 and 15:18, Ezekial 9:4-7, Hosea 13:16, Numbers 31, Isaiah 13:9 and 15-18);

promote honor killings (Genesis 34:1-31);

Encourage the slaughter prisoners of war (Deuteronomy 7:1-2;

Encourage killing of enemies – Numbers 33:50-52, Deuteronomy 2:33-36, 3:3-6 and 7:2)Luke 19:26-27);

Encourage killing of strangers (Numbers 1:51, 3:10, 3:38, 18:7);

Encourage killing non-believers (Numbers 17:2-7, Acts 3:23);

Encourage abandoning the sick (Numbers 5:1-4);

Support punishment for the sins of your ancestors (Numbers 14:18);

Encourage war (Mattthew 10:34);

Promote blood feuds (Numbers 35:19-21);

Allow POLYGAMY ( Exodus 21:10; 2 Samuel 5:13; 1 Chronicles 3:19 and 14:3; 1 Kings 11:3; 2 Chronicles 11:21; Deuteronomy 21:15; Genesis 4:19 & 16:2);

Are anti-Semitic (1 Thessalonians 2:14-16, Micah 3:1-12, Hosea 8:1-14, Matthew 23:13-39, Acts 2:23, 3:13-15);

Encourage beheading of enemies (1 Chronicles 10:9; 2 Kings 6:31, 2 Samuel 4:7 and 20:21; 2 Kings 10:6);

Belief in the Death Penalty for:

working on the Sabbath (Exodus 31:15);

cursing ones parents (Leviticus 20:9):

being rebellious towards parents (Deuteronomy 21);

worshiping other gods (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 and 32:23-25);

enticing a friend or family member to worship other gods (Deuteronomy 13:6-10);

being a witch, medium, or wizard (Exodus 22:18; Leviticus 20:27);

engaging in homosexual acts (Leviticus 20:13);

not being a virgin on one’s wedding night (Deuteronomy 22:20-21);

having sex outside of marriage (Leviticus 20:10-13,1 Corinthians 5:5);

violating the Sabbath (Numbers 15:35, 15:36);

marrying a foreigner (Numbers 25:6-9);

becoming apostate or a heretic who dissents (1 Timothy 1:20)

Is it truly any wonder where Christians get their beliefs from?  Now their may be “peaceful” Christians in the world, but the majority believe in hate and intolerance.  It has been this way since the beginning of Christianity and it’s no different today.

Let us look at the words and actions from prominent, famous, and influential Christian leaders in America:

Franklin Graham:

In the wake of the September 11, 2001 attacks referred to Islam as “a very evil and wicked religion.”

On April 18, 2003 when he travelled to Baghdad, Iraq to conduct a Good Friday service in that city, nine days after the start of the 2003 invasion of Baghdad.

“The god of Islam is not the same God of the Christian or the Judeo-Christian faith. It is a different god, and I believe a very evil and a very wicked religion.”

“But let’s use the weapons we have, the weapons of mass destruction if need be and destroy the enemy.”

“…we’ll make a great mistake if we hold back our technology and hold back our weapons and put young men and women in there and sacrifice them because we’re scared to use some of our major weapons. And I think we’re going to have to use every — and I hate to say it, hellish weapon in our inventory, if need be, to defeat these people.”

“I believe that God created one man and one woman. He gave sex to us, God did, and sex is to be enjoyed and is to be used within the bounds that God created…. In sexual behavior outside the parameters that God created, we’re at high risk, and we’re seeing the evidence of this with HIV/AIDS. We’re outside of these parameters, and we have a huge global problem now.”

“This is one wicked city, OK? It’s known for Mardi Gras, for Satan worship. It’s known for sex perversion. It’s known for every type of drugs and alcohol and the orgies and all of these things that go on down there in New Orleans… There’s been a black spiritual cloud over New Orleans for years. They believe God is going to use that storm to bring revival.”

Jerry Falwell:

In a speech, he referenced mixed-race couples in the north as an example of the results of desegregation. In 1965, he gave a sermon at his Thomas Road Baptist Church criticizing Martin Luther King and the Civil rights movement, which he sometimes referred to as the “Civil Wrongs Movement”. On his Evangelist program The Old-Time Gospel Hour in the mid 1960s, he regularly featured segregationist politicians like Lester Maddox and George Wallace.  Falwell’s views eventually shifted and he opposed segregation in his later years.  He said this about Martin Luther King: “I do question the sincerity and non-violent intentions of some civil rights leaders such as Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., Mr. James Farmer, and others, who are known to have left wing associations.”

In the 1980s Jerry Falwell was critical of sanctions against the apartheid regime of South Africa. He stated that while he was opposed to apartheid, he feared that sanctions would result in a worse situation, with either a more oppressive white minority government or a Soviet-backed revolution. He drew the ire of many when he called Nobel Peace Prize winner and Anglican Archbishop Desmond Tutu a phony “as far as representing the black people of South Africa.”

He’s been called an agent of intolerance and the founder of the anti-gay industry who regularly demonized and dehumanized gays and fought against gay rights. In the early 1980s when the AIDS pandemic was still in its early years and could have been addressed more proactively as a national health crisis he swayed public opinion against people with AIDS (PWAs) saying “AIDS is not just God’s punishment for homosexuals, it is God’s punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals.”

On Falwell’s “Old Time Gospel Hour” broadcast (March 11, 1984), when the mostly gay Metropolitan Community Church was almost accepted into the World Council of Churches, Falwell called them “brute beasts” and stated, “this vile and satanic system will one day be utterly annihilated and there’ll be a celebration in heaven.”

Falwell’s ghostwriter, Mel White, said Falwell remarked about gay protesters, “Thank God for these gay demonstrators. If I didn’t have them, I’d have to invent them. They give me all the publicity I need.”

After the September 11, 2001 attacks, Falwell said on the 700 Club, “I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way, all of them who have tried to secularize America. I point the finger in their face and say ‘you helped this happen.'” Fellow evangelist Pat Robertson concurred with his sentiment. After heavy criticism, Falwell apologized, though he later said that he stood by his statement, stating “If we decide to change all the rules on which this Judeo-Christian nation was built, we cannot expect the Lord to put his shield of protection around us as he has in the past.”

Pat Robertson:

On January 14, 1991, on The 700 Club, Pat Robertson attacked a number of Protestant denominations when he declared: “You say you’re supposed to be nice to the Episcopalians and the Presbyterians and the Methodists and this, that, and the other thing. Nonsense. I don’t have to be nice to the spirit of the Antichrist.”

Robertson has described feminism as a “socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.”[23] Many of Robertson’s views mirror those of the evangelical activist Jerry Falwell, who made frequent appearances on The 700 Club. He agreed with Falwell when Falwell stated[24] that the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks were caused by “pagans, abortionists, feminists, gays, lesbians, the American Civil Liberties Union and the People For the American Way.”

After public outcry regarding the dialog, which was conducted via television monitor and took place only days after the attacks, Robertson claimed that his earpiece was malfunctioning, and that he was unaware of what he was agreeing with at the time.

On the June 8, 1998 edition of his show, Robertson denounced Orlando, Florida and Disney World for allowing a privately sponsored “Gay Days” weekend. Robertson stated that the acceptance of homosexuality could result in hurricanes, earthquakes, tornadoes, terrorist bombings and “possibly a meteor.” The resulting outcry prompted Robertson to return to the topic on June 24, where he quoted the Book of Revelation to support his claims.

While discussing the Mark Foley scandal on the October 5, 2006 broadcast of the show, Robertson condemned Foley saying he “does what gay people do”.

Robertson repeatedly supported former President of Liberia Charles Taylor in various episodes of his 700 Club program during the United States’ involvement in the Liberian Civil War in June and July of 2003. Robertson accuses the U.S. State Department of giving President Bush bad advice in supporting Taylor’s ouster as president, and of trying “as hard as they can to destabilize Liberia.”

Robertson was criticized for failing to mention in his broadcasts his $8,000,000 (USD) investment in a Liberian gold mine.  Taylor had been indicted by the United Nations for war crimes at the time of Robertson’s support.

Prosecutors also said that Taylor had harbored members of Al Qaeda responsible for the 1998 U.S. embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania. According to Robertson, the Liberian gold mine Freedom Gold was intended to help pay for humanitarian and evangelical efforts in Liberia, when in fact the company was allowed to fail leaving many debts both in Liberia and in the international mining service sector. Regarding this controversy, Richard Land, head of the Southern Baptist Convention‘s public policy said, “I would say that Pat Robertson is way out on his own, in a leaking life raft, on this one.”

Robertson has also been accused of using his tax-exempt, nonprofit organization, Operation Blessing, as a front for his own financial gain, and then using his influence in the Republican Party to cover his tracks. After making emotional pleas in 1994 on The 700 Club for cash donations to Operation Blessing to support airlifts of refugees from Rwanda to Zaire, it was later discovered, by a reporter from The Virginian-Pilot, that Operation Blessing’s planes were transporting diamond-mining equipment for the Robertson-owned African Development Corporation, a venture Robertson had established in cooperation with Zaire‘s dictator, Mobutu Sese Seko, whom Robertson had befriended earlier in 1993. According to Operation Blessing documents, Robertson personally owned the planes used for Operation Blessing airlifts.

In 1993, Mobutu was denied a visa by the U.S. State Department after he sought to visit Washington, D.C. Shortly after this, Robertson tried to get the State Department to lift its ban on the African leader.

An investigation by the Commonwealth of Virginia’s Office of Consumer Affairs determined that Robertson “willfully induced contributions from the public through the use of misleading statements and other implications” and called for a criminal prosecution against Robertson in 1999. However, Virginia Attorney General Mark Earley, a Republican whose largest campaign contributor two years earlier was Robertson himself, intervened, accepting that Robertson had made deceptive appeals but overruling the recommendation for his prosecution.  No charges were ever brought against Robertson. “Two years earlier, while Virginia’s investigation was gathering steam, Robertson donated $35,000 to Earley’s campaign — Earley’s largest contribution.” Pat Robertson’s Katrina Cash

In April 2002, Robertson acknowledged owning a race horse, named “Mr. Pat.” He told a New York Times reporter that his interest in the horse was based purely on its aesthetics. “I don’t bet and I don’t gamble. I just enjoy watching horses running and performing.” Harder to explain was why he spent $520,000 on the horse and intended the beast to compete at the track. But the resulting furor over Robertson’s direct participation in a gambling racket eventually caused him to sell the horse a month after the Times story broke”On his The 700 Club television program, Pat Robertson has sharply criticized elements of the United States government and “special interest” groups that don’t share his views. In interviews with the author of a book critical of the United States Department of State, Robertson made suggestions that the explosion of a nuclear weapon at State Department Headquarters would be good for the country, and repeated those comments on the air. “What we need is for somebody to place a small nuke at Foggy Bottom,”Robertson said during his television program, referring to the location of the State Department headquarters. State Department officials said they believed the comments to be in extremely bad taste, and have lodged official complaints against Robertson for his remarks.

Robertson has repeatedly claimed that Barry Lynn has stated that fire departments cannot put out fires in churches because it would be a violation of separation of church and state. Lynn, progressive organizations like Media Matters for America and conservative groups such as Focus on the Family have all contested Robertson’s statements.

On the August 22, 2005 broadcast of The 700 Club, Robertson said of Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez:

I don’t know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we’re trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it. It’s a whole lot cheaper than starting a war, and I don’t think any oil shipments will stop.

Robertson also said that Chávez was “going to make Venezuela a launching pad for communist infiltration and Muslim extremism all over the continent” and called the leader an “out-of-control dictator… a dangerous enemy to our south, controlling a huge pool of oil that could hurt us very badly.”

On the August 24 edition of The 700 Club, Robertson asserted that he hadn’t actually called for Chávez’s assassination, but that there were other ways of “taking him out”, such as having special forces carry out a kidnapping. Robertson explicitly denied having used the word “assassination”, though the word “assassinate” was present in his initial statement. Later that day, he issued a written statement in which he said, “Is it right to call for assassination? No, and I apologize for that statement. I spoke in frustration that we should accommodate the man who thinks the U.S. is out to kill him”. However, he continued to justify his original stance on the potential threat Chávez posed to U.S. interests.

On February 2, 2006 edition of Hannity and Colmes, Pat Robertson once again called for Chávez’s assassination. When Colmes asked Robertson “Do you want him taken out?”, Robertson replied “Not now, but one day, one day, one day.”

On his November 10, 2005 broadcast of The 700 Club, Robertson told citizens of Dover, Pennsylvania that they had rejected God by voting out of office all seven members of the school board who support intelligent design.

“I’d like to say to the good citizens of Dover: if there is a disaster in your area, don’t turn to God, you just rejected Him from your city”, Robertson said on his broadcast.

“And don’t wonder why he hasn’t helped you when problems begin, if they begin. I’m not saying they will, but if they do, just remember, you just voted God out of your city. And if that’s the case, don’t ask for His help because He might not be there.”

In a written statement, Robertson later clarified his comments:

“God is tolerant and loving, but we can’t keep sticking our finger in His eye forever. If they have future problems in Dover, I recommend they call on Charles Darwin. Maybe he can help them.”The lead story on the January 5, 2006, edition of The 700 Club was Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon‘s hospitalization for a severe stroke. After the story, Robertson said that Sharon’s illness was possibly retribution from God for his recent drive to give more land to the Palestinians. He also claimed former prime minister Yitzhak Rabin‘s 1995 assassination may have occurred for the same reason.

Robertson has frequently denounced the religion of Islam and Muslim people. During a 1995 taping of The 700 Club, he called the religion a “Christian heresy”.  During a September 19, 2002 episode of FOX News Channel’s Hannity & Colmes, Robertson claimed that the Muslim Prophet Muhammad, was “an absolute wild-eyed fanatic … a robber and a brigand.” He claimed on the September 14, 2004 episode of The 700 Club that “Islam is by the gun, by the fire, by the bayonet, by the torch.”  On the July 14, 2005 broadcast of the The 700 Club, he claimed that “Islam, at its core, teaches violence.”

On the March 13, 2006 broadcast of The 700 Club Robertson stated that Muslims want global domination and that the outpouring of rage elicited by cartoon drawings of the Islamic Prophet Muhammad “just shows the kind of people we’re dealing with. These people are crazed fanatics, and I want to say it now: I believe it’s motivated by demonic power. It is Satanic and it’s time we recognize what we’re dealing with.” He finished by stating “by the way, Islam is not a religion of peace.”

On the September 25, 2006 broadcast of The 700 Club Robertson stated “It’s amazing how the Muslims deal with history and the truth with violence. They don’t understand what reasoned dialogue is….”

On March 23, 1995, Pat Robertson led a television program in which he attacked the religion of Hinduism. He called it “demonic” and said that Hindus should be barred from entering the United States. He said that they worship “idols” and “hundreds of millions of deities,” which “has put a nation in bondage to spiritual forces that have deceived many for thousands of years.” He spoke against the doctrines of karma and reincarnation.

I can’t make this stuff up!!!  Just these three people alone command the respect of millions of Christians here in America!   Yet, Christianity is supposed to be peaceful and loving.  Apparently, it’s only peaceful and loving when your a Christian, if not….well, their words, actions, and text bear witness to the truth.

Pictures of acts committed by Christians:

 

What do you think these victims would say about Christianity considering the acts committed against them by those who say they practice the Christian faith?

Lastly, I would like to add to those foaming at the mouth right now, that this posting is purely for critical analysis.  I don’t believe Christianity is a religion of violence or that the majority of Christians are violence.  My point is that many Christians are quick to make these assertions about Islam and Muslims as if people are really that stupid and can’t see the hypocrisy in these accusations.  Many Christians, some have commented on this blog, are black pots calling the kettle black.  They have not gotten the beam out of their eye, but are quick to talk about the beam in some Muslims eyes.

I was inspired to write this post largely from the great article Throwing Stones at the Qur’an From a Glass House and some commentary from a poster on a message board that accused me of only following the “peaceful” verses in the Quran.  I retorted by stating that he is only following the “peaceful” verses in the Bible.

I truly believe that the majority of the claims against Islam is the work of master hypocrites and deceivers.  I call them such, whether Pastor, Reverend, “former Muslim”, etc.  because they deny the obvious and apply double standards.  If I had never been a Christian and never read a Bible and presented these claims against Christianity, these same people, many of whom I quoted, would begin to give me a speech about textual, historical, and religious context.  However, they seem to forget this same theological, philosophical, and scholarly method when talking about Islam and Muslims.

I believe it’s in the best interest of all concerned about the danger of these islamiphobes who spread ignorance, intolerance, and hate against Muslims and Islam, to learn these verses and history.  The best way to curb falsehood is to make it manifest.

I will declare Islam a violent religion, when others declare Christianity, Judaism, and others violent religions.

I am for justice and equity as a means for peace.  If we are to believe that Christianity is peaceful by looking at the context of verses, understanding that bad Christians are false, and the majority of Christians not only don’t hold these views and/or are peaceful, then the same standards should be applied to Muslims and Islam.

Robert Salaam

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23 Comments

  1. This is an excellent post. You ask relevant questions. Questions that will rise the ire of some, perhaps most in the US, but others may reflect, deeper perhaps.

    Salaams,
    Ridwan

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  2. Throwing stones at each other

    When will people like you who research and cite all your sources at the bottom of all your posts actually research that which matters the most. The truth that is.

    Islam is peaceful, Islam is violent, christians are peaceful, they are violent. Hindus are peaceful………..you get the drill. Its not the religion, its always the followers. Anytime you have a set of laws and “holy” scriptures, people are bound to twist it to their understanding and benefit. People can justify anything in their minds. Look at Hitler, the suicide bombings all over the world, the arab israel issue. Organized religion is the root of all evil. The sooner you realize this and start preaching the common language of humanity, the better for all of us.

    “The first day or so we all pointed to our countries, The third or fourth day we were pointing to our continents. By the fifth day we were aware of only one Earth.”

    Sultan Bin Salman Al-Saud (Saudi astronaut)

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  3. xmuslim,

    I don’t know if you read my blog before but: “Its not the religion, its always the followers. ” I have been saying that all along, and even in this post.

    Also I wanted to correct your statement to make it correct:

    “MUSLIMS are peaceful, MUSLIMS are violent….”

    Islam, Christianity, Hinduism, etc. are not violent in of itself, as you said it’s the so-called followers that are either peaceful or violent.

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  4. Does anybody really believe that Pat Robertson and the late Jerry Falwell are in any sense representative of mainstream Christianity? Also, the New Testament quotes given are ludicrously out of context. Citing the bombing of a handful of abortion clinics is also extremely misleading. Christian leaders and mainstream pro-lifers have consistently and vehemently ondemned the killing to stop killing approach of such activities. Finally, Jesus consistently rejected the use of violence even when he was being arrested. While hanging on the cross, he prayed for his Father to forgive his executioners. In contrast, Mohammed led bloody raiding parties and presided over executions.

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  5. Mr. Allan, you would have a point (The one I tried to make) if you weren’t so incorrect about your ill-informed history of Prophet Muhammad (saw). If you read my links or even a post or two ago, I provided ample evidence from actual scholars and historians that debunk the myths that are spread that you obvioviously believe.

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  6. I find it very interesting that when a Muslim seeks to point out the historical legacy of American Christians toward: Jews, African Americans, Women, and poor people the response consist of:

    1) Deny
    2) Attack character
    3) Attack credibility
    4) Shame, blame, and shame some more
    5) Dismiss
    6) Make irrelevant

    I see right through that tactic. You look cheap. Try again. Dismissing isn’t going to work anymore, abdicating personal responsibility isn’t going to work anymore.

    Get real please!

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  7. I find it very interesting that it’s perfectly o.k. to say anything and everything about someone else’s religion and history, but when a response points out the same things in different religions, they are simply “denying” or “dismissing.”

    Of COURSE the topic is relevant, but then again, so is pointing out that many religions have bloody histories and people that give the religion a bad name.

    Does Christianity have a violent, bloody past? Yes. Does that mean that every single living Christian should take personal responsibility for that past? Maybe, but why? There’s no way that I personally can prevent the things that so-called “Christians” do, just like Muslims can’t prevent people from carrying out violence in the name of their religion. I believe that people do the things they want to do, and use religion as an excuse. Why not? It’s perfect. It gives them a chance to carry out their violent tendencies, AND it lets them think they are noble for doing it.

    I do not accept the people who commit unspeakable crimes in the name of Christianity as true Christians. A person can quote the Bible, go to church, and preach to others all they want, but if they’re purposely hurting others, then they’re not getting the message. God loves us all, and I don’t believe that he wants us to single out, hurt, and even kill one another. They have taken the word of God out of context, changed it, added to it…. because they don’t want to follow a religion, they want to lead it and mold it to what they want it to be.

    I have been taught to love my neighbors. I have been taught to honor my parents… to not be jealous of others (that one is difficult)…. to forgive those who hurt me… To honor the sanctity of marriage… I don’t see the violence there.

    I guess that my answer to the original question is this: No, Christianity is not a violent religion. Then again, most religions aren’t supposed to be violent. I think that if people honestly tried to put others first, and act the way that they’re *supposed* to act within their religions, we would have much more peace.

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  8. Hey i will pray for the person or people who posted this. I hope you will actually try to understand what the meanings in the Bible mean rather than just show the violent part and make it look bad. Jesus Loves You!!

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  9. Zach,

    I hope you re-read what I posted and see the context in which I posted it. 🙂 I never actually said that Christianity is a violent religion. Just pointing out the hypocrisy of those who claim Islam is. My point is that any religion can be twisted to suit what people want to do, so the blame is on the people, not the religion.

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  10. Salam alaykum GREAT work brother …i really mean it …May Allah swt have his mecy and love upon u and the believers ameen …Salam

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  11. I agree with you 100%, Religion is the creation of men writting down what God is telling them to, they can twist it, and change it to what they want and probably did, religion is just a bunch of opinions and beliefs that people chose to follow. I think it’s complete ignorance and stupdity in man kind, that causes us all to think our one religion is superior and others inferior. But every religion has it’s violence so it’s kind of, in-tolerate of you, just to point out that “Christianity is a vioelnt religion”. What about Judaism, Buhdism, Paganism or even Hinduism?

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  12. You say in a reply “My point is that any religion can be twisted to suit what people want to do, so the blame is on the people, not the religion.”

    This is the whole problem. Every time a terrorist act is committed by a Muslim (eg the 9/11 attacks), Muslims round the world say “well, he’s not a real Muslim”.

    Islam needs to come to terms with the fact that people can (mis)interpret its teachings this way, and then ensure through better teaching that it doesnt happen again.

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  13. “followers of every religion are so thats why i am athiest”

    Atheism is a religion. Religion is simply a person’s interpretation of our existance.

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  14. “followers of every religion are so thats why i am athiest”

    Also, every socialist regime has been predominately atheist or at least it’s leaders were. Socialist and communist atheists are responsible for more violent deaths than all religions combined. For example, Hitler was an atheist… Stalin too… See my point…

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    1. I’m sorry to disagree with you but Hitler was a Christian, Lutheran to be exact. It’s a common misconception to believe that a man who was responsible for the most blood soaked event in history was a Christian when in Fact he was. Also Benito Mussolini, Dictator of Italy was a staunch Catholic. He was responsible for the Sovereignty and Existance of the Vatican City (Holy See).

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      1. As stated in an earlier post, when someone attends church, regardless of the denomination, it does not make them Christian. It may make them think they’re Christian. It may lead them to say they’re Christian. But it does not make them so.

        Salvation in Christ is what would make someone Christian. A “true” Christian has the Holy Spirit living in them. They would not commit ruthless acts of murder or violence because this would be contrary to the Holy Spirit. Many real Christians even loath swearing, let alone hitting, bombing, shooting… etc.

        So while Hitler may have gone to a church that was born of the Christian following centuries earlier, he was in no way Christian. That mad man was pure evil.

        So… do people who SAY they are Christian do unspeakable acts? Of course. Do people who SAY that they are loving Muslims perform unspeakable acts? Of course. Do people that REALLY ARE in fellowship with the Lord Jesus Christ do these things? It is most certainly arguable that the answer is NO.

        As I read this blog, I was disappointed by what I was seeing… scriptures ripped out of context… Old Testament scripture used as if to indicate that it was Christian (the Old Testament is from the Jewish faith, though it describes Jesus in several places as the coming Savior)… photos of destruction being associated with Christians when there may have been NONE involved in such acts… etc.

        But I do understand that this is the misconception that is imposed upon other faiths, as well. That some feel that all Muslims are evil because some who SAID they are Muslim performed senseless acts of violence. I get it. But the way this is communicated, it seems hateful of the Christian faith when it is more about western cultures that may declare this faith association but not embody it. How about a more balanced approach? How about saying the things you said followed by the fact that it is clear that acts such as this would never be perpetrated by TRUE followers of the Messiah, Jesus Christ.

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  15. Everyone in general is violent. Religion just provokes it, it is like when you insult someone’s mother, it creates anger, which leads to hatred, which leads to violence.

    All religion’s spark violence; hence the crusades. A war just about religion. I don’t care if it was in the past, it was still stupid. I think people should put aside their religions for now until we are not so stupid enough to kill each other.

    I think god would understand.

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  16. Load of crap – I’ve read articles written by Christians claiming Islam is violent, and now articles written by Muslims claiming Christinity and the writings of the Bible are violent. Are there any NON BELIEVERS out there who can give a non-biased opinion/analysis of the two religions ’cause all I seem to read is tit-for-tat junk dissing eachother’s religion.

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    1. For the record, I don’t believe Christianity is a violent religion. I though I made it clear that the intention behind this post was to put the shoe on the other foot. I don’t believe any religion is inherently violent in of itself. I pray that someday people will ask questions before they make allegations.

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  17. This is a very misguided and misinforming article.

    How is the Bible verse 1 Samuel 31:4-5, ‘advocating’ (defined as “recommending”) suicide when it is simply retelling the story of a historical event?

    “Saul said to his armor-bearer, “Draw your sword and run me through, or these uncircumcised fellows will come and run me through and abuse me.But his armor-bearer was terrified and would not do it; so Saul took his own sword and fell on it. 5 When the armor-bearer saw that Saul was dead, he too fell on his sword and died with him”

    and…

    How on earth do you justify that, Numbers 17:2-7 and Acts 3:23, are promoting the murder of non-believers?? I think you may need to read those verses again…

    You wrote “Are anti-Semitic (1 Thessalonians 2:14-16, Micah 3:1-12, Hosea 8:1-14, Matthew 23:13-39, Acts 2:23, 3:13-15)” I personally read these passages and they say nothing about hating Jews. They simply speak of Gods disapproval of sinners. These passages speak of anti-Semitism? lol

    The paragraph entitled, “Belief in the Death Penalty for…” you took completely out of context which is a very dangerous thing to do. Let me ask you a few questions. What is the penalty for sinning? yes, death. Therefore if the above sins are committed the sinner will be sent to hell. true. But it does not end there. If the sinner asks for forgiveness of these sins, then God will unconditionally forgive them and they will no longer be put to death (you failed to mention that). Therefore again i ask, how exactly are those passages exclaiming that Christians believe in the death penalty for the mentioned actions???

    Also, throughout the article you explain how you are upset at the fact that Christians state Islam as a violent religion and therefore in your defense mention Christians who have promoted violence. Well, NOT ALL Christians associate Islam with violence, therefore it is hypocritical for you to dictate that ALL Christians (whilst only giving example of a couple of individuals) live by a code of violence.

    I think that if you wish to publicly voice and persuade your personal opinions onto other people you need substantial evidence to base your claims upon and not simply hyperbolized information you have decided to purposefully take out of context.

    It would be beneficial to you if you reread this comment posted by Jobanana,

    “I do not accept the people who commit unspeakable crimes in the name of Christianity as true Christians. A person can quote the Bible, go to church, and preach to others all they want, but if they’re purposely hurting others, then they’re not getting the message. God loves us all, and I don’t believe that he wants us to single out, hurt, and even kill one another. They have taken the word of God out of context, changed it, added to it…. because they don’t want to follow a religion, they want to lead it and mold it to what they want it to be.”

    And I too will be praying for you 🙂
    God Bless.

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  18. You wrote:
    “xmuslim,

    I don’t know if you read my blog before but: “Its not the religion, its always the followers. ” I have been saying that all along, and even in this post.

    Also I wanted to correct your statement to make it correct:

    “MUSLIMS are peaceful, MUSLIMS are violent….”

    Islam, Christianity, Hinduism, etc. are not violent in of itself, as you said it’s the so-called followers that are either peaceful or violent.”

    And yet, you quote Bibical scripture out-of-context as justification for the view. The same has been done with the Koran. It is equally objectionable in both cases.

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